Employment Relations Discussion Lists

Last modification date: November 1998.
Maintained by Richard L. Hannah, Professor of Economics
Middle Tennessee State University
Contact author for citation permission: RLHANNAH@MTSU.EDU
	This description attempts broad inclusion of Internet
discussion lists which are oriented toward an employment relations niche.
The two objectives are a provision of a resource table with the list names
and listserver addresses for those interested in subscribing, and a
tabular representation of quantifiable list subscribership, including an
indication of whether the list is archived.  Details of the methodology of
technical measurement of list subscribership and the broader intellectual
and practical implications have been published elsewhere by author. (See
[1], [2], and [3] respectively.)

        Students who are not experienced on the net or familiar with
netiquette should consult with their instructors before subscribing to
discussion lists and for the purpose of determining the appropriate lists
for subscription.  Using net materials in papers also carries an ethical
obligation for proper citation of the sources.  I have participated or 
currently participate in most of these lists, and continue to find this a 
most productive experience, but I can not vouch for the utility of
all of them.  Also, the level of message volume varies from very little 
to very high.

	As a matter of perspective on how lists may be influencing
professional and academic online activity, in 1997 the Association of
Research Librarians estimated there were 3,808 such lists, news groups,
and chat groups. 

	As far as I know, I'm the only person who has pursued empirical research
on this topic in the field of employment relations.  I have several unpublished 
papers in the works on the topic.  The most detailed is derived from an online
survey of the Benefits-L list and will be published in Benefits Quarterly, 
Third Quarter 1999.

Table 1
Employment Relations Lists and Server Addresses
(as of August 1998)

---List---	--------Description--------	----Subscribe Address-----
AAUP-GENERAL	American Assn. of Univ. Prof.	majordomo@igc.apc.org
AFFAM-L         Affirmative Action Information  listserv@cmsa.berkeley.edu
AoM-OrgMgmt     Organizational Management       listproc@sting.isu.edu
AoM-HRM         Human Resources                 listproc@sting.isu.edu
BENEFITS-L      Employee Benefits               listproc@frank.mtsu.edu
COLLBARG        CB for Librarians               listserv@cms.cc.wayne.edu
COMPENSATION-L	Compensation (direct forms)	listproc@frank.mtsu.edu
CUPA-COMPSIG    Coll. & Univ. Pers. Assn.       listserv@carbon.cudenver.edu
DISPUTE-RES     Alternative Dispute Res.        listserv@listserv.law.
							cornell.edu
FLEXWORK        Flexible Work Environments      listserv@HMC.PSU.EDU
FUTUREWORK      FutureWork--econ & technology   listproc@csf.colorado.edu
H-LABOR         Labor History                   listserv@msu.edu
H-UCLEA         Labor Studies/Educ/Res/Teaching listserv@H-NET.msu.edu
HEALTHMGMT      Health Management Issues      listproc@ursus.jun.alaska.edu
HRNET           Human Resources Network         listserv@cornell.edu
HRD-L           Human Resource Planning & Dev.  majordomo@hr.trends.ca
HRIS-L          HRIS/HRMS/PAYROLL               majordomo@hr.trends.ca
HRNZ-L          HR in New Zealand               listproc@list.waikato.ac.nz
IERN-L          Intl. Employee Relations Net.   listserv@ube.ubalt.edu
IRRA            Ind. Rel. Research Assn.        listserver@relay.doit.wisc.edu
IOOB-L          Industrial Psychology           listserv@uga.cc.uga.edu
IWW-news        IWW updates, history, etc...    majordomo@igc.apc.org
IWW San Francisco based Underground Lists:
	Municipal Transportation Workers                iu540-l-request@iww.org
	Health Service Workers                          iu610-l-request@iww.org
	Education Workers                               iu620-l-request@iww.org
	Recreation Workers                              iu630-l-request@iww.org
	Park and Highway Maint. Workers                 iu650-l-request@iww.org
JOBANALYSIS     Job Analysis & Classification   listserv@listserv.vt.edu
JOB-TECH        Job Technologies                listserv@uicvm.uic.edu
LABNEWS         U.S. Labor News                 listserv@cmsa.berkeley.edu
LABOR-EMP       Labor/Emp. Law Group            e-mail: rrunkel@willamette.edu
LABOR-L         Labor                           listserv@yorku.ca
LABOR-PARTY     Union Activist List             majordomo@igc.apc.org
NWAC-L          Nat. Workforce Assistance       listserv@psuvm.psu.edu
OBTS-L          OB Teaching Society             listserv@bucknell.edu
ODCNET-L        Organizational Development      listserv@psuvm.psu.edu
PAYHR-L         Payroll & HR in Higher Ed.      listserv@vm1.ucc.okstate.edu
PENSION-POLICY	Pension Policy                  majordomo@bolis.com
PENSION-HELP	Pension Help                    majordomo@bolis.com
PRIR-L          Pacific Reg. Industrial Rel.    listproc@list.waikato.ac.nz
PUBLABOR        Public Labor Relations          listserver@relay.doit.wisc.edu
RHUMANOS        Hispanic HR, I/O, & T&D         listproc@ucdavis.edu
STAFF-DEVELOPMENT       SD in Higher Ed.        mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk
TRDEV-L         Training and Development        listserv@missou1.missouri.edu
UNION-D         European Trade Unions           listserv@wolfnet.com
UNITED          Labor Activist                  united-request@cougar.com
WORK-AT-EDU     Work/Emp. at Universities       listserv@yorku.ca
WORKFAM-L       Work/Family Newsgroup           contact: drago@uwm.edu

	The quantifying of list subscribership can be accomplished via
"review" commands to listservers.  In many cases the full subscriber files
with addresses are returned.  However, in the past two years more list
managers are concealing the files such that only a total count of the
number of subscribers are returned.  Only the former yields an accurate
way to estimate multiple-list subscribership and decomposition of
addresses into additionally descriptive categories.  This is extremely
tedious and time consuming work and in the author's opinion yields less
useful information as the net continues to dynamically evolve.  Therefore,
only the latter, the total count, is illustrated below.  This should be 
construed only as a very broad indicator of interest.  The date in the
last column indictes the chronological origin of list archiving as
indicated by an "index" command to the listservers. This does not
necessarily indicate list origin since some lists started archiving after
being founded, and in a few cases when the lists were transferred to a new
listserver location, the previous archiving became inaccessible.

Table 2
List Subscribership & Archive Status
(as of March 1997)

List			Number of Subscribers		Arichived from

AAUP-GENERAL		 396				February 1995
AFFAM-L			 673				unknown
BENEFITS-L		 563				January 1995
BENEFITS-CA		  50				March 1996
COLLBARG		 295				unknown
COMPENSATION-L		 147				January 1997
CUPA-COMPSIG		1160				April 1996
DISPUTE-RES		 716				December 1993
FLEXWORK		not functioning			unknown
FUTUREWORK		 535				December 1994
H-LABOR			1218				unknown
H-UCLEA			 257				January 1996
HRNET			3149				October 1992
HRD-L			not functioning			unknown
HRIS-L			 678				February 1997
HRNZ-L			 214				September 1995
IERN-L			 536				? 1993
IRRA			 450				February 1995
IOOB-L			1750				May 1995
IWW-news		unknown				unknown
IWW-S.F. Lists		unknown				unknown
JOBANALYSIS		 331				August 1995
JOB-TECH		not functioning			unknown
LABNEWS			not functioning			unknown
LABOR-EMP		unknown				unknown
LABOR-L			 577				unknown
LABOR-PARTY		unknown				unknown
NWAC-L			 301				unknown
OBTS-L			 549				unknown
ODCNET-L		 622				unknown
PAYHR-L			 608				January 1994
PENSION-POLICY		unknown				January 1997
PENSION-HELP		unknown				January 1997
PRIR-L			 268				unknown
PUBLABOR		 376				unknown
REDFAM-L		  75				May 1996
RHUMANOS		  70				September 1996
STAFF-DEVELOMMENT	 539				May 1995
TRDEV-L			4716				August 1996
UNION-D			unknown				unknown
UNITED			 217				November 1995
WORK-AT-EDU		 177				April 1996	


not functioning=no server response at time of contact
unknown=response of not archived or list not recognized


	The lists described above range in message content from what some
might describe as the "radical fringe" of labor activism to the nuts and
bolts of daily human resource management.  Some lists are more blended
than others--i.e., inclusive of a wide array of subscribers such as
academics, practitioners, consultants, and a large proportion of
unidentified lurkers.
	As Table 2 indicates, some lists do not survive as viable
information exchange or expertise pooling arrangements.  Sometimes their
demise is caused by a general decline in enthusiasm or by technical
problems with the listserver.  The long-term viability of several lists
does seem plausible, as indicated in Table 3 by stabilized or continued
growth rates of subscribership.  The comparative data are limited to the
lists given in order to match the lists to the earlier data collected by
the author.

Table 3
Approximation of Six Month Growth Rates of Subscribership
For Same Lists

List		October 1996		March 1997	Percent Change

BENEFITS-L	 492			 563		14.4
HRIS-L		 524			 678		29.4
HRNET		2770			3149		13.7
HRNZ-L		 130			 214		64.6
IERN-L		 436			 536		22.9
IRRA		 281			 450		60.1
LABOR-L		 493			 577		43.5
PAYHR-L		 643			 608		(5.4)
PRIR-L		 212			 268		26.4


	The sustainability of these lists is perhaps underestimated by the
growth rates since this is a net change--i.e., subscribers dropping from
the lists had to be replaced too.  Also, obviously lists which are new
will experience an accelerated increase from curious cyber dwellers.
However, most of the lists in Table 3 have been online for several years.


REFERENCES

[1] Hannah, Richard L.  "The Emerging Significance of Internet Patterns of
	Association," LABOR STUDIES JOURNAL, in press for Spring 1997.

[2] Hannah, Richard L.  "HR Has a Committee of 10,000 on the Internet,"
	EMPLOYMENT RELATIONS TODAY, Vol. 24(1), Spring 1997: 11-20.

[3] Hannah, Richard L.  "An Academic Perspective on the Evolving
	Interdependence of Internet and Employment Relations."  In John
	Bacon-Shone and Fred Castro, Editors, PUBLISHING ON THE LINE: 
	Proceedings of the Third Hong Kong Web Symposium (7-10 May 1997):
	106-120.  HREF Version